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		<title>Yacht with jet fuel in bladder tank</title>
		<link>http://www.expeditionyacht.org/safety-health/jet-fuel-in-bladder-tank/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>thorwald</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Being an expedition yacht able to carry a helicopter you tend to end up in places where jet fuel for your helicopter is not readily available.  So we decided early on we wanted to be able to carry some extra jet fuel to be able to refuel the helicopter.  In an earlier post about this subject, we wrote we [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being an expedition yacht able to carry a helicopter you tend to end up in places where jet fuel for your helicopter is not readily available.  So we decided early on we wanted to be able to carry some extra jet fuel to be able to refuel the helicopter.  In an <a title="helicopter refuelling on expedition yachts" href="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/helicopter/aviation-refuelling" target="_blank">earlier post about</a> this subject, we wrote we had planned to adapt two former diesel fuel tanks for this purpose. Class rules require a cofferdam to surround the jet fuel tank as well as a double hull if the tank is on the outside like in our case.</p>
<p>Our initial idea was to basically add plating to the inside of the tank  walls and hull to create the cofferdam space (about 20 cm wide)  and make this hull inspectionable with an inspection camera <a href="http://www.ridgid.com/Tools/SeeSnake-micro#">like this one from Ridgid</a> .  Making the cofferdam wider to allow access would mean ending up with almost no fuel storage space and rules require you can inspect a cofferdam but don&#8217;t specifically say how big it has to be.  But how to keep corrosion at bay and what about not being able to weld this plating on both sides? </p>
<p><img class="align=right size-full wp-image-1237" title="extremely strong fuel bladder tanks from Turtlepac" src="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/turtleback-airhelirolldrum1.jpg" alt="extremely strong fuel bladder tanks from Turtlepac" width="325" height="264" align="right" />So we started looking at other solutions like a tank we could remove.  To store about 3 to 4 m3 of jet fuel (780-1038 gl.), one big tank would not be practical (how to get it in there?)  Several smaller tanks?  To start with, that would clearly violate the KIS principle.  But then we learned about bladder tanks and we came accross the website of<a title="Turtlepac aircraft bladder tanks" href="http://www.turtlepac.com/airdetails.htm" target="_blank"> Australia&#8217;s Turtlepac</a> and thought, if they can do <em>that</em> kind of stuff with a bladder tank &#8211; like throwing filled tanks out of helicopters - it will work for us!  The obvious advantage of a bladder tank in our application is that when empty, you can easily remove it through the manhole and inspect the outer tank!</p>
<p><span id="more-1218"></span>Unfortunately, there was no information whatsoever available on the Internet about yacht applications approved by a class society so I decided take my case to always very helpful gentlemen of Lloyds Register in Ft. Lauderdale to see how they felt about the idea.  I met with one of their surveyors and the news was good.  Yes, there was a precedent of the use of bladder tanks on (classed) yachts.    But we had to make sure the tank would not collapse while being emptied because they want fixed connections to the tank for filling and venting.  Flexible hoses &#8211; not normally visible as they are hidden in a cofferdam &#8211; that could  move and possibly allow parts rubbing into each other, resulting in some kind of failure were a no-no. </p>
<p>Mmm&#8230;  a bladder tank that maintains its shape?  How then would we get it at its intended location or remove it for inspection.  But they mentioned there are companies that manufacture a foam specifically for use in fuel tanks (also called fuel cells) that could be inserted into the tank to keep it from collapsing, maintain its shape and allow fixed connections.</p>
<p>A little more Googling and we ran into so-called explosion suppressant foam made by  <a title="safe jet fuel storage with explosion suppressant foam on explorer yacht" href="http://www.crestfoam.com/intro.html" target="_blank">Crestfoam</a> among others.  To see why this foam is called &#8216;explosion suppressant&#8217;, it&#8217;s enough to watch the video below.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/safety-health/jet-fuel-in-bladder-tank/ "><em>Click here to view the embedded video.</em></a></p>
<p>So thanks to the helpful advise of Lloyds Register and with a little planning from our side and a lot of ball-shaped foam pieces from Crestfoam it looks we have now overcome the major hurdle to create jet fuel storage that will meet class requirements.</p>
<p>As you can see from the picture below, these fuel cells can be made in any size of shape to fit the particular needs of your yacht.  Of course, they will have to be pressure tested by the class society but the pressure is not that high and as you can imagine, these tanks can meet those requirements easily.</p>
<p><a title="custom-made fuel cells - bladder tanks for marine use by ATL" href="http://www.atlinc.com/marine.html" target="_blank"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1355" title="custom-made fuel cells - bladder tanks for marine use by ATL" src="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/ATL-FluoroCell_Marine4.jpg" alt="custom-made fuel cells - bladder tanks for marine use by ATL" width="470" height="257" /></a><a title="marine fuel cell bladders from ATL" href="http://www.atlinc.com/marine.html" target="_blank"></a></p>
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		<title>Extractable helideck</title>
		<link>http://www.expeditionyacht.org/helicopter/extractable-helideck/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>thorwald</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We finally found an elegant and safe solution to create even more space on our helideck in our effort to comply with the latest CAP 437 (North Sea off-shore helicopter operation guidelines) and MCA guidelines on helipads.   Although we are not required to comply on a private yacht, and we already had an acceptable clearance, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We finally found an elegant and safe solution to create even more space on our helideck in our effort to comply with the latest CAP 437 (North Sea off-shore helicopter operation guidelines) and MCA guidelines on helipads.   Although we are not required to comply on a private yacht, and we already had an acceptable clearance, the solution shown below makes a good thing even better.</p>
<p><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1194" title="A Frank Mulder designed extractable helipad" src="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/helideck-mulder.jpg" alt="A Frank Mulder designed extractable helipad" width="470" height="458" /><br />
As you can see, the deck extracts almost 3 meters (10 ft.) allowing sufficient rotor tip clearance.  Our situation is shown in the drawing below.  Even when landing partly outside the forward area of the &#8216;H&#8217;-circle  (1/2 D) we&#8217;re still OK.<span id="more-1193"></span></p>
<p><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1200" title="drawing showing extractable helipad on explorer yacht" src="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/blog-extractable-helideck2.jpg" alt="drawing showing extractable helipad on explorer yacht" width="470" height="558" /><br />
By the way, after a lot of consulting with experts and pilots, the helicopter we plan to have on board eventually will be a Eurocopter EC130B4.  It allows the best guest experience, is silent, safe and has great capacity.</p>
<p><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1202" title="with a helicopter we can land everywhere  (not an EC130)" src="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/helijungle-visit1.jpg" alt="with a helicopter we can land everywhere  (not an EC130)" width="470" height="353" /></p>
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		<title>An ideal helicopter</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 13:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>thorwald</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[When thinking about the ideal helicopter for an expedition yacht, this is a nice one to have around.  Reliable, spacious and folding blades. The Eurocopter AS 350B2 is a single-engined utility helicopter that can accommodate up to 7 passengers. Development of the AS 350 Ecureuil started in the early 70s under the Aérospatiale banner. The first flight of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-499" title="Eurocopter AS 350b - reliable, versatile and spacious" src="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/as350b-flying2.jpg" alt="" width="470" height="347" /></p>
<p>When thinking about the ideal helicopter for an expedition yacht, this is a nice one to have around.  Reliable, spacious and folding blades. The Eurocopter AS 350B2 is a single-engined utility helicopter that can accommodate up to 7 passengers. Development of the AS 350 Ecureuil started in the early 70s under the Aérospatiale banner. The first flight of an Lycoming LTS101-powered machine took place on 27/06/1994. The second prototype was fitted with an Arriel 1A and took to the air on 14/02/1975. Certification (with a Turboméca Arriel 1B turboshaft powerplant) was achieved in October 1977. The single-engined AS 350B2, powered with a Turbomeca Arriel 1D1 engine was certified in April 1989. The AS 350 is marketed in North America as the AStar or SuperStar. The helicopter divisions of MBB from Germany and Aerospatiale from France merged in January 1992 to form the Eurocopter Group.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/topview-blog2.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-656" title="Top view with Eurocopter AS-350" src="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/topview-blog2.jpg" alt="" width="470" height="317" /></a></p>
<p>The three main rotor blades mean it has shorter blades than the Bell Jetranger that can carry only 5 people.  And, they are foldable which is important when you have three main rotor blades ! And as you can see above, we just found a 3D model.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-505" title="Eurocopter AS350b3 sizes" src="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/as350-sizes.gif" alt="" width="470" height="751" /><a href="http://None"></a></p>
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		<title>Helicopter refuelling (refueling?)</title>
		<link>http://www.expeditionyacht.org/helicopter/aviation-refuelling/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 19:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>thorwald</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#8217;d like to be able to refuel a helicopter on our vessel and carry jet fuel for that purpose.  Obviously, dealing with jet fuel, while not nearly as dangerous as avgas -it&#8217;s actually more like diesel - requires a lot of extra safety measures.  That&#8217;s why we will make the arrangements compliant with Lloyds Register and MCA LY2 rules. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;d like to be able to refuel a helicopter on our vessel and carry jet fuel for that purpose.  Obviously, dealing with jet fuel, while not nearly as dangerous as avgas -it&#8217;s actually more like diesel - requires a lot of extra safety measures.  That&#8217;s why we will make the arrangements compliant with Lloyds Register and MCA LY2 rules.<br />
 <br />
<img src="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/helipad-refueling1.gif" alt="expedition yacht with helicopter refuelling facility" /></p>
<p>Basically, we plan to create a small platform hinged from the stern to have the required outside-deck-only access to the pump room.  It also gives the chef the option to receive stores at the back when we are at anchor.  And, it&#8217;s a place to temporary keep some garbage if needed.  It will only require one watertight door + the access door to the pump room (with a VERY small pomp).</p>
<p>The pump room will have a small approved pump and the required ventilation.  Below an illustration of how we plan to convert our stern diesel wing tanks into compliant jet fuel tanks.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/jet-fuel-tank-proposal1.gif" alt="aviation fuel storage on expedition yacht - concept proposal" /></p>
<p>By building a cofferdam in/around the tank we should be able to comply with the rules that require avoiding direct contact between jet fuel tank and the hull and a cofferdam space all around the tank that can be checked on leaks and has an appropriate drainage. In our case, any leakage would end up in the dirty oil tank.</p>
<p><span style="color: #808080;">Update: October, 2009: after consulting with a Lloyds surveyor, we decided that instead of building the cofferdam from steel, we&#8217;ll create space to install a bladder tank.  Once this tank is put into place, it will be filled with foam to keep it in shape even when empty.  Lloyds Register doesn&#8217;t like flexible connections so they&#8217;ll be rigid, requiring a bladder that maintains its shape.</span></p>
<p><img src="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/zwemdek1.gif" alt="access from the stern platform is through a watertight door that leads into the galley" /></p>
<p>Below a view from the rear. As soon as we get the OK for the concept from the Germanischer Lloyd, we&#8217;ll design the structure.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/zwemdek-2.gif" alt="Not a swimming platform except for the chef" /></p>
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		<title>Aviation fuel storage</title>
		<link>http://www.expeditionyacht.org/helicopter/aviation-fuel-storage/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 22:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>thorwald</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my post on helipads on board, I briefly mentioned the issue of fuel storage.   It&#8217;s not that simple at all if you want to do it safely.  Yes, you can take a few portable fuel tanks like you use on your RIB with an outboard engine but what about say 2.000 liters (500 gallons) or more? [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my <a target="_blank" href="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/?p=174" title="Post on helipads">post on helipads</a> on board, I briefly mentioned the issue of fuel storage.   It&#8217;s not that simple at all if you want to do it safely.  Yes, you can take a few portable fuel tanks like you use on your RIB with an outboard engine but what about say 2.000 liters (500 gallons) or more?</p>
<p>Well, start thinking about double walled tanks (cofferdams), special pump rooms, all kind of detection systems, etc. etc.   I have started to look into building a fuel tank inside the starboard stern fuel tank.   Whether it fits depends on the required cofferdam space between the new tank and the existing tank walls.  You need to be able to crawl around for inspection purposes and be able to weld the new tank into the existing tank.  We&#8217;d probably end up using like 10 m3 of space to create a 0.3 m3 tank (26.315 /  800 gallons).  Hardly an efficient use of space.  On the other hand, it <em>IS</em> very convenient to have ample storage inside the vessel! </p>
<p><img src="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/gas-can.jpg" alt="gas-can.jpg" /><br />
And what&#8217;s the alternative? Put say 400 of these somewhere?? <img src='http://www.expeditionyacht.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Not really. </p>
<p>But,  thanks to our ever inventive friends in Germany, land of BMW&#8217;s, Weißwurst and other good things that make life better, I ran into a very interesting solution.  Our own containerized gas pumping station!<br />
<img src="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/krampitz-tank2.jpg" alt="Safe storage of aviation fuel oil on ship (or train) in standardized form factor" /></p>
<p>The gentlemen at <a target="_blank" href="http://www.tank-system.com" title="Link to website">Krampitz</a> build an amazingly wide variety of (portable) tank solutions.  This standard 10 ft.  container comes with electronic leak indicator, overfill protection system, transfer pump, switch board, static lead indicator, fire extinguisher, and more.  It&#8217;s  CSC approved so any shipping company will carry it. Capacity: a whopping 10.000 liters (about 2.630 gallons).</p>
<p>Amazing huh?  Imagine, going cruising for a few months and know you have all the avgas or jetfuel that you need to fly as much as you want.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/made_in_germany1.gif" alt="made_in_germany1.gif" /></p>
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		<title>Helipad issues</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 17:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>thorwald</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A true expedition vessel can&#8217;t really be without a helicopter.   If you&#8217;re going to the middle of nowhere, you need flexible means of transportation.  Only a heli fits the bill so we plan to make our ship ready for it.  Obviously, landing a helicopter on a small yacht involves a variety of safety issues.  When [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/helipad-attessa5-blog1.jpg" alt="Small helipad on Attessa megayacht - a Feadship" /></p>
<p>A true expedition vessel can&#8217;t really be without a helicopter.   If you&#8217;re going to the middle of nowhere, you need flexible means of transportation.  Only a heli fits the bill so we plan to make our ship ready for it. </p>
<p>Obviously, landing a helicopter on a small yacht involves a variety of safety issues.  When I started looking into the rules set up by classification society <a target="_blank" href="http://www.gl-group.com" title="Germanischer Llloyd, Hamburg, Germany website">Germanischer Lloyd</a>, I learned there are basically two things to look at: landing and refuelling.  If you just want to land (and take-off), there&#8217;s a <a target="_blank" href="http://www.gl-group.com/infoServices/rules/pdfs/english/schiffst/teil-3/kap-2/englisch/abschn03.pdf" title="Link to G/L rules on helipad safety">variety of rules</a> regarding safety precausions, fire fighting gear, the size of the helipad and surrounding approach area, etc.  If you also want to refuel onboard, you run into a whole set of other rules regarding the safe storage of aviation fuel. </p>
<p>In this post I&#8217;ll start with the landing pad itself.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/helipad-ambrosia2.jpg" alt="Helipad on the Ambrosia - obviously no room for error here !" /></p>
<p>Below a diagram with measures of what Germanischer Lloyd considers a helipad they would certify.  If  we take a common helicopter like the Bell 206 Jetranger, &#8216;D&#8217; = 12.15 m (39.2 ft.).  So you need an aiming zone (the yellow H circle)  of about 6 m. and a clear zone of 12.15 m.<br />
<img src="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/gl-helipad-landing-area.gif" alt="Helipad size guidelines according to Germanischer Lloyd" /></p>
<p>Obviously the yacht above does not comply with these rules, not even if they move the Jacuzzi ! </p>
<p>We&#8217;re more thinking into starting out with a Robinson R44 Ravin Clipper with pop-out floats.  It&#8217;s &#8216;D&#8217; is 11.5 m. (37.6 ft.).   More on this in <a target="_blank" href="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/?p=187" title="Post on helipads">my next post</a>.</p>
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