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		<title>Ideal explorer yacht submarine</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#8217;ve been looking for a yacht sub for some time and recently ran into the VAS submarine models from GSE Subs srl in Italy, a mostly military contractor with a 30-year pedigree of building submarines.  In the US they are represented by Nautilus Underwater Systems. The people at Uboatworx in the Netherlands also upgraded their design [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve been looking for a yacht sub for some time and recently ran into the VAS submarine models from GSE Subs srl in Italy, a mostly military contractor with a 30-year pedigree of building submarines.  In the US they are represented by Nautilus Underwater Systems. The people at Uboatworx in the Netherlands also upgraded their design recently.  Add the line of personal subs from SeaMagine in California and you now have some real choices when looking for a certified personal submarine from companies that have gone well beyond nice 3D models or unstable models with very minimum freeboard.</p>
<p>So I decided to dedicate a post to comparing these 3 models.  Of course, there are  also the SeaMagine submarines which I have covered in <a title="Post on SeaMagine sub" href="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/submarine/expedition-vessel-without-sub" target="_blank">an earlier post</a>.</p>
<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-1263" title="possible configurations of Uboatworx Quester-3" src="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/uboatworx-configs.jpg" alt="possible configurations of Uboatworx Quester-3" width="250" height="518" align="right" />The most affordable entry in this field is <a title="see recent post about Uboatworx" href="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/submarine/redesigned-subs-by-uboatworx" target="_blank">C-Quester 3</a>.  At about Euro 550 K you get a 3-seat  sub that is certified by Germanischer Lloyd.  The Quester 3 can also be configured to take the pilot and 3 passengers but while making this attractive in commercial use, I doubt it will be very comfortable. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s also a 340 kg payload limitation so ideally this 3rd passenger is a kid and the airconditioning needs to work.    With its new lithium batteries it now has a very practical 6 hours of autonomy and 96 hours of life support. </p>
<p>With a maximum operational depth of 100 m. (300 ft.) you can cover any area where you typically would like to make recreational dives.</p>
<p>Weighing only 4.500 kg and relatively small, this is the only personal sub you can put on a big yacht as an afterthought.  You may need a bigger crane but not much more.</p>
<p>The main drawback of the Quester models is its limited downward view forward due to the  seat location.  It won&#8217;t be a major issue for general sightseeing when you&#8217;re between a shoal of sharks or passing by a coral reef wall as you can see on the <a title="post with picture showing downward view forward" href="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/submarine/redesigned-subs-by-uboatworx" target="_self">picture in an earlier post</a>.  But for but more serious work, including picking up things you&#8217;ll have a problem.  But then again, you save almost $ 1.5 -2 million  depending on the configuration compared to the next in line, the <a title="earlier post on Triump submarine" href="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/submarine/expedition-vessel-without-sub" target="_blank">SeaMagine Triumph</a>.</p>
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<p><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1266" title="Seamagine Thriump submarine" src="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/thriump-sub.jpg" alt="Seamagine Thriump submarine" width="250" height="244" align="left" />The Triumph is one big serious submarine that can take you all the way down to 153 m. (500 ft.) it its standard version and to even 914 m. (3000 ft !) with upgrades.  The Triump  can take a pilot and 2 guests in comfort and offers an extraordinary good view all around, providing probably the most exciting &#8216;immersion&#8217; experience.  It&#8217;s big, heavy (6.800 kg, 15.000 lbs), bulky and not very fast due to it&#8217;s un-streamlined shape but for serious personal diving and scientific work, this is one an awesome sub that&#8217;s hard to beat. <a title="visit website of Seamagine subs" href="http://www.seamagine.com" target="_blank">SeaMagine</a> also offers a smaller &#8216;Ocean Pearl&#8217; model.  It only takes one passenger so you get no shared &#8216;ohh and ahhh&#8217; or practical commercial use.  But, if you don&#8217;t have the space or the crane capacity on your yacht this may be an acceptable compromise and save you some money with standard pricing at $ 1.4 million.</p>
<p><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-1269" title="the streamlined 5-pax VAS" src="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/VAS-5pax-blog.jpg" alt="the streamlined 5-pax VAS" width="250" height="177" align="right" />For real serious &#8216;personal&#8217; submarine work, lots of capacity and a host of unique options taken straight from the professional submarine field the <a title="VAS sub website" href="http://www.yachtdive.com/" target="_blank">VAS subs</a> fit the bill .  Like the Seamagine this is a submarine you have to plan for during new-built or have a dedicated &#8216;sub carrier&#8217;. </p>
<p>Starting at $ 2.6 million for the 4-person entry model you get a sub with a military heritage.  The VAS is the only private submarine available with an optional diver lockout which allows you to exit the submarine underwater and investigate firsthand found objects of interest!  The diver lockout also acts as a recompression chamber in the event of a diver medical emergency.</p>
<p>The VAS passenger compartment is made of 5cm (2”) thick steel and the viewports are a minimum of 15cm (6”) thick.  All of this is wrapped in an extremely tough composite hydrodynamic envelope (you can actually tow this sub behind your yacht!).  Historically, the VAS had to meet military standards of AK47 assault rifle fire. So if you want to go diving of the cost of Somalia you want a VAS <img src='http://www.expeditionyacht.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>Compared to the SeaMagine model you get an 8-hour range (versus 6 hrs) and more speed (or staying-at-location-capacity when there are currents), more interior volume, an extra seat, less weight (5 tons versus 7) and a smaller form factor. Like the Seamagine its classed (RINA) and meets the latest Cayman Islands standards for 96-hour live support.</p>
<p>Since the length is relatively adjustable, you can also easily request a VAS sub with more seat capacity.  A longer hull also gives you better handling, speed and battery efficiency. </p>
<p><a rel="attachment wp-att-1116" href="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/submarine/yacht-submarine/ /attachment/vas-sub-boven"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1116" title="VAS yacht submarine  - top view" src="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/vas-sub-boven.jpg" alt="VAS yacht submarine  - top view" width="470" height="740" /></a>BUT, but, the VAS doesn&#8217;t offer the &#8217;immersive&#8217; view of the Seamagine.  To  their advantage they use large flat, distortion-free optics.  This perfect vision will be essential when utilizing manipulators and close quarter maneuvering, as there is no guesswork in gauging distance.  But then again, you&#8217;re still in a metal tube with windows versus a transparent shere you can&#8217;t even see when you&#8217;re looking upward in a SeaMagine.</p>
<p>The situation is different for every yacht and budgets differ too but I hope this post will help you make a decision about this sub is best for your yacht. As for ourselves, we had originally planned for a Seamagine Triump but we&#8217;re also giving thought to the VAS.  But we will probably start out with a Uboatworx for budget reasons <img src='http://www.expeditionyacht.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> . </p>
<p><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1117" title="Side view VAS yacht submarine on explorer yaht" src="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/vas-sub-zij-sm.jpg" alt="Side view VAS yacht submarine on explorer yaht" width="470" height="324" /></p>
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		<title>Redesigned subs by Uboatworx</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 13:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>thorwald</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Uboatworx folks in Breda, The Netherlands upped the notch for personal subs dramatically.  The redesigned subs now come in a 2-person version and 3- person version with optional 4-person configuration with greatly increased endurance thanks to better and more batteries. It looks a lot better too I think.  Getting in and out will be dramatically more easier [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-741" title="Uboatworx' new subs" src="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/cq23_2-blog.jpg" alt="redesigned personal subs by Uboatworx" width="470" height="350" /></p>
<p>The <a title="Affordable Uboatworx personal submarines for yachts" href="http://www.uboatworx.com" target="_blank">Uboatworx folks in Breda</a>, The Netherlands upped the notch for personal subs dramatically.  The redesigned subs now come in a 2-person version and 3- person version with optional 4-person configuration with greatly increased endurance thanks to better and more batteries.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-743" title="Topview Uboatworx personal submarine" src="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/cq3_topview-blog1.jpg" alt="great looking personal sub" width="470" height="449" /></p>
<p>It looks a lot better too I think.  Getting in and out will be dramatically more easier I can assure you from experience.  And yes, it has gotten more expensive too: about Euro 550.000 + options.  To make it Euro 500.000 if you include transport and training and all the gadgets.   Ohh, and your yacht needs a 4.5-ton crane as minimum.  Still , that&#8217;s a lot less than you need <a title="post comparing subs for yachts" href="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/submarine/yacht-submarine" target="_blank">with other subs</a>.</p>
<p>Downward visibility has also improved as you can see on the picture below.<br />
 <img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1327" title="forward view has improved a lot; sideways is even better" src="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/uboat-forward-downward-view1.jpg" alt="forward view has improved a lot; sideways is even better" width="470" height="353" /></p>
<p>Need one? Visit <a title="Your local point of sales can help you acquire a Uboatworx personal sub" href="http://www.submarinospanama.com" target="_blank">Panama Submarines</a>.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-744" title="The 3-person personal sub" src="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/cq3_15-blog.jpg" alt="this model can be delivered in 2 configurations." width="470" height="403" /></p>
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		<title>A great new sub</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 19:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>thorwald</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is it !  The ideal sub for our expedition vessel. Well, at least while we save some $$ for the 3-seat, ABS-classed Seamagine Triump that costs 10x more (mainly because it goes 10x deeper and it&#8217;s made for professional uses). Now we explore Panama&#8217;s beautiful underwater world without getting wet and see big sharks without them [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/uboat-bl.jpg" alt="very nice personal sub" /></p>
<p>This is it !  The ideal sub for our expedition vessel. Well, at least while we save some $$ for the 3-seat, ABS-classed <a title="Link to SeaMagine post" href="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/?p=47" target="_blank">Seamagine Triump</a> that costs 10x more (mainly because it goes 10x deeper and it&#8217;s made for professional uses). Now we explore Panama&#8217;s beautiful underwater world without getting wet and see big sharks without them ever taking a bite at you.</p>
<p>But this new product from The Netherlands by <a title="Your regional point of sales" href="http://www.submarinospanama.com" target="_blank">Uboat Worx </a>in Breda, allows two people to explore the underwater world up to 50 meters, more than enough for recreational use.  After all, most of the fun is within the first 30 meters. </p>
<p><img src="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/from-sub-2-many-fish.jpg" alt="Imagine seeing all this without getting wet." /><br />
The cost, fully equipped is about $ 155 K. Not bad at all for a quality product, unlike some of those designs you see online that never seem to leave the drawing board or require you to get wet first before you can get into the sub.<br />
Diving here at Isla Coiba is really spectactular but not everybody may like the idea of swimming between lots of sharks or barracudas. This sub will allow you to enjoy the beauty of the underwater world in comfort, safety and without getting wet.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.expeditionyacht.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/from-sub-2-fish.jpg" alt="Enjoy the beautiful marine life from inside the sub" /></p>
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